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				 Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:47 am    
  rutlands fireplace mortar or cement? | 
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				What is best to use for cracks?
 
Rutlands fireplace cement or mortar?
 
I purchased the hi heat mortar...but I am reading cement in the posts.
 
I thought the cement was for metal?
 
any help would be appreciated
 
thank you for y our time
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:43 am    
 
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				I would stick with Rutland's myself.  Not just for metal. _________________   Don't Be A Richard    | 
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:06 pm    
 
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				yes,
 
both are made by Rutland
 
one is mortar
 
the other is cement
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:45 pm    
 
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				Use the cement... it has excellent bonding properties.  Not sure about the mortar. _________________   Don't Be A Richard    | 
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:10 pm    
 
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				| The Rutland's has been used by dozens of people to good effect.  The other cement would probably be equally good but why risk it? | 
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:19 pm    
 
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				For me its mainly the costs.
 
and from the sounds of things, this particular Rutlands product has not been tried.
 
my local place had to special order it so I will likely try it.
 
I've been doing some reading.
 
We should probably use std refractory cement. that seems to be what Komodo-Kamado uses to cast their cookers. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:34 pm    
 
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				| I just used the Rutland's Cement to do a major crack repair on a K5.  It worked very well.  I've also used their mortar for smaller repairs. | 
			 
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:50 pm    
 
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				[quote="Barry"]found another product.
 
http://www.imperialgroup.ca/product.cfm?navcategory=5&category=16&prod uct=366
 
 
Mortar is meant to cement bricks together. It expands and contracts. its not meant to be cast in large qty. only fairly think layers.
 
The Castable Refractory Cement is what I need.[/quote]
 
 
I just finished using the Imperial moldable refractory cement to set a window in my Cinergy Wood stove. (apparently designed by Richard under the name Meridian). It even looks like a Komado cooker. Richard originally suggested me using M 63D which I did and as you guys already knew would never come. The Imperial stuff worked out great. | 
			 
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