Unbelieveable it goes on and on, ain!t that the truth

[Sesquipedalian]

I see pictures of the awful build quality and parts and lack of customer service and am in total disbelief that anyone doing any research would give their money to this guy but they do. And then they tell you how it is the best cooker. Ignorance is bliss. It is there for everyone to see but the thing that is really unbelievable that nobody starts a class action suit or some of the businesses that have supplied things to him and never been paid don!t take action against him. Even though everyone knows it is going on he is allowed to get away with it. He does whatever he wants whenever he wants. There is always a reason why the victims don!t pursue this. There has got to be a way to put a stop to this guy.

[fishtail-99]

It's hard to sue him once he left the US and started hiding in Mexico and now Indonesia.

[Nemesis]

Even if you did sue him, what could you get? He was seeking volunteers to raise his stolen sailboat - that was worth serious cash, yet the fact that it has rotten into the bottom of the river bed says something about the lack of resources to salvage it.

He doesnt stock grills, probably because of the cash flow involved in the initial production. He doesnt demand quality from his suppliers, because he needs to take whatever he can get from whatever sucker doesnt expect COD payment.

At this point, with the writing all over the wall, its just tragic comedy to watch fools sending him more and more money. I will still do my part to help make sure RJ receives as few dollars as possible, but anyone who does business with him now deserves what they get.

[foxhound]

The problem is now that he is focusing on Home Show sales and getting people to deposit before they can go home and research on the computer. Not only that but he is suckering the other vendors that frequent the home show 'circuit' to double their money and order in volume. Well if you are going to rob a bank, demand more than chump change. I guess it got too easy taking advantage of one consumer at a time.

[curly]

No matter what you may say about RJ and family...they are good at the flim flam game...really good

[Knotter]

If people doing the buying are "fools", then I agree with "watching comedy"; but I seriously doubt most are, or have any idea what they're getting themselves into.

No doubt, those of us ripped off, already feel like fools; but being called one takes it to another level. As such; I'm concerned if we start name tagging may stop folks from posting just to avoid the embarrassment.

In respect, please refrain from calling those of us ripped off, fools.

It's just recently the fraud forum shows up in the first page when "googling" Kamado.

But try searching using "Ask". Reviewed 4 pages of results not once seeing the kamadofraudforum.

Again, I don't think our presence is broad enough yet to say all buyers have been fairly warned enough about POSK, to call them a fool for buying one.

Being warned, then buying a POSK, that's a fool. Not finding the warnings, then buying a POSK, that's a problem.

[Knotter]

Listed under FAQ's at ASK.com (This should probably be a separate post)

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[foxhound]

I agree with knotter. Only recently have the die-hard supporters backed off attacking anyone who would complain on that site. When was the last time you even saw an inquiry for a BBQ on that forum or heard someone anxiously awaiting their shipment? Their sales focus is now the unsuspecting home show crowd that sees a pretty piece of yard art and perhaps samples food at a weekend show and impulsively writes a deposit check or gives a credit card. They probably get a story about small family business and there is probably never a mention of a website.

There has been mention of expanding international sales where consumers don't necessarily speak English; possibly focusing on distributors instead of customer direct.

[Nemesis]

[foxhound]

nemesis wrote:

[Porkchop]

[foxhound]

knotter...check your private message

[Sesquipedalian]

Where I am the major tv news stations have consumer reporters that will look into consumer complaints against companies and go to the companies and confront them. I don!t know if that was or is available wherever this business was or is located but maybe that would be an option for pursuing the wrongs that have been done.

I know people that have done that and they actually go to the business. If it is available maybe they would be willing to look at all the many complaints even if they were approached by only one person and find out how and where to approach them and confront them about the complaints about the way they do business. Sometimes areas have consumer groups that put out newsletters stating which business to stay away from because of bad reputations.

[Nerka]

I would love to see the Johnsons on TV trying to answer some pointed questions.
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